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Tracking - Royal Mail Click and drop and Amazon

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Is anyone else using M2E Pro along with Royal Mail's click and drop?

Do you tracking numbers work properly in Amazon?

Click and drop send the info to Magento with carrier as "other" and the carrier name as "Royal Mail"

M2E Pro send this on to Amazon so in Amazon the carrier shows as "other" with the service as "royal mail"

So Amazon get the tracking number but don't automatically know that it's Royal Mail so "Valid tracking" stats are poor and customers don't get the right tracking info

 

Does anyone else have this problem? Or use Click and drop and NOT have this problem? I'm at my wits end and M2E Pro couldn't help when I asked last July

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First of all the most important thing to do is report this to Royal Mail.

The core issue is that when Click & Drop connects to the Magento API to update the shipping information, it does not populate the carrierCode with a unique name. Their reply to me was typically that there was not a problem! The more people however that report it, the more likely they are to eventually do something about it.

I also explained the issue to M2e who seemed to get the problem a bit better than Royal Mail did. I suggested that in a future version of M2e Pro they provide a default carrier option in the Amazon sync. So that if the carrier is not set (ie 'other') then the a default carrier can be sent to Amazon, e.g Royal Mail. I think there is a better chance of M2e providing a solution than the Dinosaur that is Royal Mail. If you think this is a good idea, please add your voice to the tread and send a request to M2e asking for the feature to be added to a future version.

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Thanks for the reply!

It's been reported to Royal Mail but they weren't interested and I came to the same conclusion as you, that they were too much of a dinosaur. M2E Pro gave me some technical explanations which made sense, but which I'm sure would be fixable with a small about of programming. 

It seems that Amazon have 3 fields which are relevant:

-  CarrierCode
- CarrierName;
- ShippingMethod

If CarrierCode is sent then it should be one of a number of items off a predefined list of carriers which Amazon Support. (Royal Mail happens to be one of them)

Amazon DON'T want CarrierCode and CarrierName to both be sent

ShippingMethod is really for the sevice as far as I can tell. So things like "1st Class" or "Next Day" or whatever. 

Currently, M2E Pro seems to send CarrierCode, which is where "Other" seems to get sent to Amazon, and then they send the shipping Method as the name of the courier, which seems to just be incorrect. 

M2E could fix it by doing something like this (excuse my attempt at programming logic!):

1 - IF the Magento "Carrier" <> "other" AND if Magento "Carrier" is on Amazon approved list THEN send "Carrier" to Amazon as "CarrierCode" (send nothing to Amazon as CarrierName)

2 - IF the Magento "Carrier" = "other" AND if magento "Carrier NAME"  is on Amazon approved list THEN send "Carrier NAME" to Amazon as "CarrierCode" (send nothing to Amazon as CarrierName)

3 - IF the Magento "Carrier" <> "other" AND if Magento "Carrier" is NOT on  Amazon approved list THEN send  Magento "Carrier" as "CarrierName" (send nothing to Amazon as CarrierCode)

4 - IF the Magento "Carrier" =  "other" AND if Magento "Carrie NAME" is NOT on  Amazon approved list THEN send  Magento "Carrier NAME" as "CarrierName" (send nothing to Amazon as CarrierCode)

 

That would cover Approved Amazon courier and non approved couriers in either Magento's Carrier or Carrier Name field. Example below, assuming Royal Mai is Amazon Approved, and Joe Blogs Courier isn't

Royal Mail in Magento Carrier field - line 1 picks it up and sends to Amazon as CarrierCode - this is the ideal situation

Joe Bloggs in the Magento Carrier field - line 3 picks it up and send to Amazon as CarrierName (which is what I believe Amazon want when

"Other" in Magento Carrier field with "Royal Mail" in magento "carrier name field" - Line 2 picks this up and sends "Royal Mail" from Magento Carrier Name to Amazon as CarrierCode - This is what would fix the current Click and Drop setup (but also other integrations I have seen such as dispatch bay who send "other" and "yodel", or "Other" and "Parcelforce" etc. 

"Other" in Magento Carrier field with "Joe bloggs" in magento "carrier name field" - Line 4 picks this up and sends Joe bloggs as "CarrierName"

 

Not sure where to send the above info to? Any ideas where it'll get properly looked at?

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M2E just sends what magneto has received from Royal Mail Click & Drop. This was also a problem with eBay for a while but eBay does exactly what you suggest, when ebay sees Carrier=Other Method=Royal Mail as the method it changes it to Carrier=Royal Mail.

The really annoying thing is that Royal Mail does not provide an API for click and drop so we are forced to use their broken Magento 2 integration. Whenever we report an issue their response is basically, this is a free service we won't fix it! It is almost as though Royal Mail don't want any customers!

So yes, if M2E pro could include an option to either automatically change Carrier=Other and Method=Royal Mail to Carrier=Royal Mail, or as I suggested simply have an override option in the settings that would replace 'other' with your chosen carrier that would solve the problem.

Although M2E understand the problem I doubt doing something about it will be high on their list of priorities as it is a problem caused by Royal Mail and only impacts UK merchants that use Click & Drop. I really do hope that they will add this option and the more people who ask for it the higher the probability, but I don't imagine it coming very soon.

The most frustrating thing is Royal Mail's attitude. I posted feedback on Royal Mail and they completely don't get the problem!

https://clickanddrop.uservoice.com/forums/399930-general/suggestions/35929534-fix-incomplete-magento-2-integration

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I couldn't vote on yours as it was rejected but I commented and I created a new one and linked to yours - https://clickanddrop.uservoice.com/forums/399930-general/suggestions/36202447-fix-carriercode-on-magento-integration

I'm not sure M2E Pro are doing it properly, or that Royal Mail are the ones to blame. 

On Magento 1 at least, Royal Mail aren't a default carrier, and it's not simple to add another one. I haven't tested what happens if "RoyalMail" is sent as the CarrierCode but I expect that the details won't be logged on a standard Magento install as that CarrierCode doesn't exist. 

In addition, it's not just Royal Mail who send "custom". Despatchbay also do the same. They send "custom" and then the  name of the courier in the second field.

M2E Pro also "Royal Mail" as the service which isn't correct at all. 

I think the problem is a magento issue ultimately. I *think* Royal Mail, DespatchBay and, I imagine, other services are sending what the Magento developers intended them to send,

The way I see it is that M2E Pro are the link between Magento and Amazon so they should be the ones to code the (simple) logic to send the correct value to Amazon. 

 

I'm currently using a workaround. I have set up a free plugin called Seekwell with Google sheets. This connects to my Magento database and grabs all the details for any Amazon orders for the current day with a click of a button. I can then upload this to Amazon and it overwrites the "other" with "Royal Mail".  It takes <5mins at the end of each day, but I don't like manual tasks even when they are quick. I'll forgot to do it at some point no doubt. Only been doing it a couple of weeks so not checked if it has fixed my Amazon metrics yet. Also not sure if customers get a second dispatch email when the tracking it updated.

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